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If everyone ranked candidates in order of preference and then we added up the scores, the only certain outcome is that nobody's first choice would win. The inoffensive little man who came fifth on every paper would slide into number ten as all the hate votes cancelled one another out! Shocked

Joined: 03 Nov 2004 Posts: 25773 Location: Warrington

Kyje: isn't that precisely why NuLab have finally come round to considering PR, cos at the end of the day, they are more certain of "second votes" - afraid this STV system would consign us to the same bunch of electoral, all things to all men, centre hugging careerists we've now become accustomed to - so no vision, no grand plan, no conviction, no fundemental change - just the same old grey politics. Rolling Eyes

Joined: 26 Feb 2008 Posts: 2476 Location: Near

Obs you are correct, I final fling of the dice to hold on to power, If we would have had the system earlier it might have stopped them getting in the first place, One benefit of the system would be that any MP who is elected would need 50% of the vote from his constituency unlike now, It's not perfect but it is fairer than are present system, and unlike PR it would not lead to weak government like in Italy.
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Of course there is only one perfect form of PR and that is to allow only two Parties. How would the Lib Dems like that I wonder?

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But you also need to factor in "non-voters"; we can have candidates an Governments elected on a lot less than 50% of the eligible electorate - so no perfect system I.m afraid. The two main Parties ignore the aspirations of their core voters in any event, in the fight over marginal seats - so we finish up with pretty much the same thing but with a different title. Rolling Eyes

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I don't agree you would need more of the popular vote to get elected, so it is more democratic
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How do you work that out Kyje, if 30% of folk arn't even bothering to vote at all? Confused

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Do what they do in Australia, you have to vote Wink

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But that's not part of the current Gov proposal. Rolling Eyes

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It should be Wink

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There are lots of "should be's" in this world I'm afraid! Rolling Eyes